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MmacFN
11-25-2006, 07:54 AM
Hey all


It seems many people on some other sites take the "MDA" (MD - Anesthesia) term as derrogatory. Now, ive seen and heard anesthesiologists say it on a regular basis and seen it on paper work as well.

Personally, i dont mean disrespect, its just easier to type :ranger:

Where does the term origionate and IS it really derragatory? If it is, why do some anesthesiologists use it?

If anyone has an example of paperwork from a hospital where "MDA" is written in please, let me know i'd love a copy.
LouCRNA
11-25-2006, 08:03 AM
I have actually been told this too. I don't remember who it was that said it to me, but it happened in conversation that I referred to an MDA, and I was promptly told that wasn't a nice way to reference them.

Seems silly to me. I call my family doctor a GP; I call my female-matters doctor an OB-GYN; The physician who took out my thyroid is my ENT. Why the hell is it a problem to call an anesthesiologist an MDA?
MmacFN
11-25-2006, 08:24 AM
Yah i was thinking the same thing

Emergency Physicians are EPs and Nurse Anesthetists are CRNAs.

Why is it derragatory?
NursePink
11-25-2006, 09:00 AM
Hmmmm... haven't heard that. The only time I don't use MDA is if the anesthesiologist is a DO. I figure that could be a little 'touchy'.
RAYMAN
11-25-2006, 11:25 AM
I've seen it on anesthesia paperwork. There is a line for the "crna" to sign and a line for the "mda" to sign. They have to have something to whine about while crna's are doing all the work. :)
FutrCRNA
11-25-2006, 02:30 PM
They have to have something to whine about while crna's are doing all the work. :)


Word! They're not gonna be happy till we call them "God" (and that moniker is already taken...) and genuflect while doing so.
yoga
11-25-2006, 04:29 PM
Really, who cares? Not me! It was just a few years ago that they decided to define us, by calling us nurses who do anesthesia (not nurse anesthetists or CRNAs). That issue came up at the doomed ThoughtBridge discussions between the AANA and ASA.

Maybe we spend too much time caring about what THEY think, when they are not concerned about what WE think or are.

By the way, the term MDA has been used in several appellate court decisions regarding nurse anesthetists and anesthesiologist practice. It is funny how acronyms can become common usage.

yoga
RAYMAN
11-25-2006, 06:38 PM
Maybe we spend too much time caring about what THEY think, when they are not concerned about what WE think or are.

yoga


Bingo

Simple, yet profound.
DebbieC
11-26-2006, 10:26 AM
Am I the only one who 'got' NursePinks joke???

!!!!!
NursePink
11-26-2006, 10:52 AM
Am I the only one who 'got' NursePinks joke???

!!!!!

heehee I think it's a second rate insecurity thing... IMHO of course ;) THAT is a toooooootally different thread.
RAYMAN
11-26-2006, 12:44 PM
Am I the only one who 'got' NursePinks joke???

Nope...just not the first time I've heard it...sorry. :)
crna2be
12-13-2006, 06:28 PM
They probably are afraid someone will think it means MD assistant and it hurts their pride (ha ha ha)
MmacFN
12-13-2006, 06:47 PM
you know

a physician said to me one day "Would a DO be a "DOA"?"

I couldnt stop laughing. Now that would be offensive i would think :)
FutrCRNA
12-13-2006, 07:13 PM
I think it's interesting that DOs used to be considered "junior" doctors, that they weren't MDs so they weren't "real" doctors and now (at least in TX) they are on equal footing. And yet nurse anesthetists will never be given the same respect, even if the programs were to grant clincial doctorate degrees (as opposed to research based).

Not trying to stir the pot, just making an observation...