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FSUBSN
08-20-2008, 11:23 PM
I was just wondering how the recovery room looks as far as critical care experience. I know that i need experience with vents, drips, and hemodynamic monitoring, but don't most of those patients go to their own specialized ICUs? by the way i graduate with BSN this fall, hopefully with a 3.8gpa and am trying to plan my internship/career. I also plan to take organic chem and already took graduate patho. My uncle who is an old CRNA advised the recovery room which sounded like it made sense, but should i go for svicu or micu instead? Plus if i worked on it asap how long does it take to get ccrn certified? Thanks

icudropout
08-21-2008, 01:44 AM
A few programs will accept PACU as critical care experience, but all will take ICU. Unless you know where you want to go and you are sure they accept PACU experience, The ICU just may open more doors.

skipaway
08-21-2008, 02:20 AM
ICU is the way to go.

ethernaut
08-21-2008, 02:25 AM
ICU.
please.

secondly,
for the CCRN,
i wonder if people do their own investigating
before asking questions anymore:

http://www.aacn.org/WD/Certifications/Content/ccrn.pcms?pid=1&&menu=#Eligibility

CRNAIam
08-21-2008, 08:31 AM
Don't be too hard on the upcoming youngins, they are a product of a microwave society, used to googling for immediate answers. You are just seeing the new phenon of "N-Ahhing It"!!!:focus: PS as an added plus, after Critical Care, I would recommend a cross training to CVICU, for tons of rapid vent weaning & a vasoactive gtt experience. Good Luck

infidel
08-21-2008, 09:28 AM
My uncle who is an old CRNA advised the recovery room which sounded like it made sense,

Almost any other old, such as myself, CRNA will tell you ICU. I do not feel PACU prepares you for CRNA school.

FSUBSN
08-22-2008, 10:06 AM
I asked for help not an attitude, so thank you to the ones that helped

FutrCRNA
08-22-2008, 11:12 AM
I asked for help not an attitude, so thank you to the ones that helped

Ah, young Grasshopper, you must grow some thicker skin and become like Teflon. If you ask for advice/opinions around here, you're going to get the full gamut from the answers you're looking for to "piss off and look it up yourself".

ICU experience (doesn't matter which type) will serve you better than PACU. The patients don't stick around in PACU long enough for you to develop that intuition that "something" just isn't right. And, at least in the hospitals I've worked PACU, the ICU patients go straight to ICU from OR, without passing through PACU so you may not even get to see the vents/drips/etc. But my PACU experience is limited to 3 hospitals, so it may be different elsewhere.

My advice would be to find an ICU where they have sick patients with lots of vents/drips/swans/codes/etc and learn everything you can for a few years before applying to NA school.

That's my 2 cents...

Burnt2
08-22-2008, 01:51 PM
piss off and look it up yourself








sorry, I coudln't help it:Flush: :salook:

wvuturtle514
08-22-2008, 02:21 PM
The attitudes of some people on this board have really sucked as of late. This is part of the reason I do not post much here anymore.

That aside, although I think PACU is good experience, you should really spend your time in the ICU. You will have more critically ill patients and you will learn a tremendous amount that easily carries over into any area of nursing that you choose to pursue. I went from CVICU to ER before entering school and I felt like I knew so much more than all of the ER nurses. To me, ICU just builds a better foundation. Good luck!!

ethernaut
08-22-2008, 02:28 PM
why is it that nursing produces such "soft-hearted/thin-skinned/don't hurt anyone's feelings" nurses?
somebody.
anybody.
please.
can anyone answer this?
sorry, but gimme a break!

one tells someone to maybe,
just maybe,
look something up
on
their
own,
and suddenly you're the one with the "attitude"?

i guess then yes.

all's i'm saying is maybe do some researching first,
and if one cannot find an answer, then seek help.

the answer tree is running out of leaves.

wvuturtle514
08-22-2008, 03:07 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the purpose of this website is to serve as a resource for current CRNAs, SRNAs and those interested in pursing or learning about nurse anesthesia. Most people who lurk on this site probably think, "Hey, these guys seem to know what they are talking about. They can probably answer a lot of my questions and I don't have to go digging around on the internet for answers." Hence, they are using this site as a resource....I see nothing wrong with that. This is the guy's first post on here and he was asking a legitimate question....no reason to get snarky and make him (or her) feel like he wasn't putting in enough effort to find the answers to those questions. Here's an idea.....if you don't like questions like this, then don't respond to them. And if being a nice person and trying to help someone out when I can makes me a "soft-hearted/thin-skinned/don't hurt anyone's feeling" nurse.....well, I'd rather be that person any day than be a jerk to people for no reason. Have a nice evening.

(FWIW, I'm currently 6 months pregnant and have raging hormones.....otherwise I probably wouldn't have given this the time of day)

HuskerRN
08-22-2008, 03:17 PM
I reccomend ICU experience for the same reasons stated before me. However it is possible to get into a CRNA program with ONLY PACU experience as one of my classmates found out. I don't know anything else about his applicancy though. He may have aced his GRE, had a sweet GPA, and also taken organic chem...

I will say this though, you can read as much as you want about hemodynamics, vasoactive drugs etc., but you will never become proficient/confident until you've done it many many times. So do you really want to play catch up in CRNA school when it's going to be hard enough.

rjkt
08-22-2008, 03:43 PM
I agree, ICU is the way to go, CTICU, MICU, CCU, SICU, or even Burn (well maybe not). Why would you do PACU, I think its a waste of time. In the PACU you wont get the experience managing critically ill patients, titrating gtts, and Vents. I know some schools say PACU is acceptable, but why risk and waste your time. IMHO.

MmacFN
08-22-2008, 03:58 PM
Im glad you posted and wish you would post more. :)

Dont be put off by others cause that means many lose the widsom of your advice.



Correct me if I'm wrong, but the purpose of this website is to serve as a resource for current CRNAs, SRNAs and those interested in pursing or learning about nurse anesthesia. Most people who lurk on this site probably think, "Hey, these guys seem to know what they are talking about. They can probably answer a lot of my questions and I don't have to go digging around on the internet for answers." Hence, they are using this site as a resource....I see nothing wrong with that. This is the guy's first post on here and he was asking a legitimate question....no reason to get snarky and make him (or her) feel like he wasn't putting in enough effort to find the answers to those questions. Here's an idea.....if you don't like questions like this, then don't respond to them. And if being a nice person and trying to help someone out when I can makes me a "soft-hearted/thin-skinned/don't hurt anyone's feeling" nurse.....well, I'd rather be that person any day than be a jerk to people for no reason. Have a nice evening.

(FWIW, I'm currently 6 months pregnant and have raging hormones.....otherwise I probably wouldn't have given this the time of day)

ethernaut
08-22-2008, 04:22 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the purpose of this website is to serve as a resource for current CRNAs, SRNAs and those interested in pursing or learning about nurse anesthesia. Most people who lurk on this site probably think, "Hey, these guys seem to know what they are talking about. They can probably answer a lot of my questions and I don't have to go digging around on the internet for answers." Hence, they are using this site as a resource....I see nothing wrong with that. This is the guy's first post on here and he was asking a legitimate question....no reason to get snarky and make him (or her) feel like he wasn't putting in enough effort to find the answers to those questions. Here's an idea.....if you don't like questions like this, then don't respond to them. And if being a nice person and trying to help someone out when I can makes me a "soft-hearted/thin-skinned/don't hurt anyone's feeling" nurse.....well, I'd rather be that person any day than be a jerk to people for no reason. Have a nice evening.

(FWIW, I'm currently 6 months pregnant and have raging hormones.....otherwise I probably wouldn't have given this the time of day)
hey look,
first off, i'll take your parenthetical statement as a positive comment.
secondly,
i don't disagree with what you said.
for the most part.
but,
for a more direct answer,
if I had a question directly about,
let's say... CCRN certification,
then I would have gone directly to the site.
is everyone the same?
hail naw!

i'm just saying,
people want to do things a little easier and quicker these days,
and it bothers me.
heck, when i was growing up,
it took an hour to make minute rice,
and 60 minutes was on for an hour and a half.

again,
i'm just saying~

wvuturtle514
08-22-2008, 04:39 PM
i'm just saying,
people want to do things a little easier and quicker these days,
and it bothers me.


I don't disagree with you....it can be very irritating most of the time. However, I am learning to live by the motto "work smarter, not harder"..... :focus:

Skeebum
08-22-2008, 06:06 PM
So it appears that the take home message is: some schools will accept PACU, ALL schools accept ICU. Why not take the job that makes you the most marketable applicant?

I agree that the ICU time will be more beneficial to you in your life as an SRNA, and ultimately as a CRNA.



hey look,
first off, i'll take your parenthetical statement as a positive comment.
secondly,
i don't disagree with what you said.
for the most part.
but,
for a more direct answer,
if I had a question directly about,
let's say... CCRN certification,
then I would have gone directly to the site.
is everyone the same?
hail naw!

i'm just saying,
people want to do things a little easier and quicker these days,
and it bothers me.
heck, when i was growing up,
it took an hour to make minute rice,
and 60 minutes was on for an hour and a half.

again,
i'm just saying~


Note to Ethernaut: For a while now, as I read your posts, I have been struck by a feeling of familiarity, but I couldn't place it. I just had an "Aha" moment tonight. With the way you set up your posts I get an image of the Joe Pesci character in the Lethal Weapon movies.

"OK, ok, ok,
I'm just saying,
They F--- you at the drive-thru,
You hear me Riggs,
They F--- you at the drive-thru"

FSUBSN
08-22-2008, 06:20 PM
Well i think it's obvious, I'm going ICU, thanks again for the input. When i asked about the CCRN thing i wasn't asking for exact numbers from a pamphlet per say, but actual experience time, just like many agree that 1 year of ICU isn't enough for NA school. Hope you don't talk to your pts that way.

p.s. I still cook my rice stove-top style, tastes better.

ethernaut
08-22-2008, 06:21 PM
Well i think it's obvious, I'm going ICU, thanks again for the input. When i asked about the CCRN thing i wasn't asking for exact numbers from a pamphlet per say, but actual experience time, just like many agree that 1 year of ICU isn't enough for NA school. Hope you don't talk to your pts that way.

p.s. I still cook my rice stove-top style, tastes better.

i was merely alluding to the fact that you need 1750 hours or 2 yrs experience.
THAT will allow you to sit for the CCRN.
hope this helps.

MmacFN
08-22-2008, 09:18 PM
Note to Ethernaut: For a while now, as I read your posts, I have been struck by a feeling of familiarity, but I couldn't place it. I just had an "Aha" moment tonight. With the way you set up your posts I get an image of the Joe Pesci character in the Lethal Weapon movies.

"OK, ok, ok,
I'm just saying,
They F--- you at the drive-thru,
You hear me Riggs,
They F--- you at the drive-thru"


LOL

ethernaut
08-23-2008, 02:25 AM
Note to Ethernaut: For a while now, as I read your posts, I have been struck by a feeling of familiarity, but I couldn't place it. I just had an "Aha" moment tonight. With the way you set up your posts I get an image of the Joe Pesci character in the Lethal Weapon movies.

"OK, ok, ok,
I'm just saying,
They F--- you at the drive-thru,
You hear me Riggs,
They F--- you at the drive-thru"

i'm taller.
much taller.
and don't make me make you laugh.
i ain't no F---in' clown.
capisch? <------ (in the words of infidel)