Anyone know when the next edition of Morgan will be out?

[neopusher]

The current edition (4th) of Clinical Anesthesiology by Morgan & Mikhail was first published in 2005, so it seems like the new should be out before long.

Does anyone know of a release date for the new edition?

I'm starting school in August, and this book is listed as mandatory for my second semester. I'd like to go ahead and get it now, but I'll wait until January if there's a chance the newer edition will be published by then.

[Esper]

No idea, but I highly recommend the Clinical Anesthesiology app for iphone/ipad. It's 80 bucks, but it completely replaces the book. It is built the same in every detail to the information, same chapters and sections, and diagrams/pictures. Also, it's searchable so you can find what you need quickly.

[RNMAN2010]

Should be this month.

[ethernaut]

don't waste your money on a new edition of M&M&M. I've read and studied v.1 and 2. I did just fine. besides, there are many inaccuracies in M&M&M, which is also a reason MD residents don't use it much. now barash and miller... those some books! oh, and I schooled during v.4.

[My_brain_hurts]

don't waste your money on a new edition of M&M&M. I've read and studied v.1 and 2. I did just fine. besides, there are many inaccuracies in M&M&M, which is also a reason MD residents don't use it much. now barash and miller... those some books! oh, and I schooled during v.4.

Numerous obvious grammatical (spell?) typos usually get me to start thinking twice about all the content of a book. As do 8 cervical vertebra :suspicious:

That being said, it was one of the only text books that actually fit into my backpack, and because of that, it got looked at frequently. It's kind of a fast read. It seems horridly indepth at first, then after a few months in school you realize its more of a review type book. I can't imagine a new addition will have anything vitally important that isn't already in the older ones. Except maybe they fixed the cervical vert problem :)

[JoshSRNA]

Numerous obvious grammatical (spell?) typos usually get me to start thinking twice about all the content of a book. As do 8 cervical vertebra :suspicious:

That being said, it was one of the only text books that actually fit into my backpack, and because of that, it got looked at frequently. It's kind of a fast read. It seems horridly indepth at first, then after a few months in school you realize its more of a review type book. I can't imagine a new addition will have anything vitally important that isn't already in the older ones. Except maybe they fixed the cervical vert problem :)

HA!
Yeah, M&M is a great way to sink your teeth into a new topic before diving into a more detailed text if you're a student, and then a good quick and dirty way to review various subjects later on. Definitely does not reflect the full spectrum of anesthesia science and practice, and shouldn't be considered as such.

[neopusher]

thanks everyone, for the responses.

[RNMAN2010]

5th edition out today for preorder under the title Morgan and Makhail's Clinical Anesthesiology.

[neopusher]

5th edition out today for preorder under the title Morgan and Makhail's Clinical Anesthesiology.

Awesome.....thanks!

[neopusher]

5th edition out today for preorder under the title Morgan and Makhail's Clinical Anesthesiology.

Which site did you find it on? I don't see it on B&N, Amazon, or the Mcgraw-Hill site.

[RNMAN2010]

Try sorting by publication date on Amazon. Also, it's now authored by Butterworth, not M&M.

[neopusher]

Try sorting by publication date on Amazon. Also, it's now authored by Butterworth, not M&M.

found it - thanks again!

[RNMAN2010]

It's out and it's awesome.

[brachelrn]

I will ask. One of the authors is in the group of anethesiologists that contract with our hospital. Work tomorrow so I will ask then.

[deemo21]

I will ask. One of the authors is in the group of anethesiologists that contract with our hospital. Work tomorrow so I will ask then.

It's out as well as a new edition of Barash

[neopusher]

It's rather ironic that this old thread just got resurrected today, because I just bought the book today on my way home from school.

Thanks for all the replies.

[JoshSRNA]

Also new Nagelhout

[JadamR15]

New books galore, I see.

M&M is a great book - maybe not used by folks in Albany (ether) but still very popular for MDA and CRNA training.

I've read in other forums that residents have used M&M and only M&M and passed written/oral boards.

It was my fave in schoool. Everything ya need to make you conversational, nothing you don't.

[neopusher]

New books galore, I see.

M&M is a great book - maybe not used by folks in Albany (ether) but still very popular for MDA and CRNA training.

I've read in other forums that residents have used M&M and only M&M and passed written/oral boards.

It was my fave in schoool. Everything ya need to make you conversational, nothing you don't.

Yeah, it's become my favorite. Very concise. If I need more detail than what it has, I can always go to one of the bigger texts or the interwebs.

I think I'm gonna get the new Barash, as well. It looks like if you buy it directly from the LWW website, you get both the hardcopy and the ebook for one price.

What do you guys think of the necessity of some of the "specialty" texts, like Cote's Infants and Children, Stoelting's Coexisting Diseases, and Kaplan's Cardiac Anesthesia?

[Shane]

Yeah, it's become my favorite. Very concise. If I need more detail than what it has, I can always go to one of the bigger texts or the interwebs.

I think I'm gonna get the new Barash, as well. It looks like if you buy it directly from the LWW website, you get both the hardcopy and the ebook for one price.

What do you guys think of the necessity of some of the "specialty" texts, like Cote's Infants and Children, Stoelting's Coexisting Diseases, and Kaplan's Cardiac Anesthesia?

Complications in regional anesthesia and pain medicine 2nd Ed, recently released, great book if you are doing this in your practice.

[deemo21]

Yeah, it's become my favorite. Very concise. If I need more detail than what it has, I can always go to one of the bigger texts or the interwebs.

I think I'm gonna get the new Barash, as well. It looks like if you buy it directly from the LWW website, you get both the hardcopy and the ebook for one price.

What do you guys think of the necessity of some of the "specialty" texts, like Cote's Infants and Children, Stoelting's Coexisting Diseases, and Kaplan's Cardiac Anesthesia?

Barash is $169 right now on Amazon and the textbook comes with the redemption code for the ebook version...which is awesome...

[JoshSRNA]

Stoelting's Coexisting Diseases?

is a must have text IMO. Great for care plans and getting the quick and dirty on disease states and anesthetic ramifications

[neopusher]

Barash is $169 right now on Amazon and the textbook comes with the redemption code for the ebook version...which is awesome...

Thanks for the tip - just ordered it! The LWW website wanted $40 more for the same package....I love having both hard copy and ebook versions of stuff.

[RescueNinja]

Anesthesia and coexisting disease is fabulous, especially for care plans. The new Nagelhout is a lot better than the previous edition.

[JadamR15]

Yeah, it's become my favorite. Very concise. If I need more detail than what it has, I can always go to one of the bigger texts or the interwebs.

I think I'm gonna get the new Barash, as well. It looks like if you buy it directly from the LWW website, you get both the hardcopy and the ebook for one price.

What do you guys think of the necessity of some of the "specialty" texts, like Cote's Infants and Children, Stoelting's Coexisting Diseases, and Kaplan's Cardiac Anesthesia?

I had many of the specialty books as well.

Honestly, if you know M&M cold, you won't need the specialty books.

If you're in an especially long program with extensive clinical experience and time to really enhance your understanding, I think the specialty texts are warranted.

But practically, M&M + relevant literature is enough to help you become an articulate and safe provider.

IMHO -

[ethernaut]

I had many of the specialty books as well.

Honestly, if you know M&M cold, you won't need the specialty books.

If you're in an especially long program with extensive clinical experience and time to really enhance your understanding, I think the specialty texts are warranted.

But practically, M&M + relevant literature is enough to help you become an articulate and safe provider.

IMHO -

i think something like chestnut for OB, for example, is worthy beyond M&M. i liked M&M.. it was easy to understand and read. granted.. when you wanted more depth, you had to look elsewhere. but, one book can't be the be-all-end-all.. can it?

[neopusher]

Barash (8th ed) arrived today. Spent some time looking through it and I think I'm going to like it. Looks like a big improvement over the previous version.

The ebook is excellent. Very rich, with embedded videos and the content is supposedly going to be updated regularly.

The only downside is that you can only view the ebook on the Inkling app (for iPhone & iPad), or website. That kind of sucks since I already have an extensive ebook library - all of which are in iBooks on my iPad & iPhone, and Calibre on my computer - and now I have to have another app just for a single book. On the bright side though, Inkling is an open platform that is working to make itself the preferred publisher for digital textbooks, so it might take off. If they would just allow import of other EPUB's and PDF's into their app, it could probably replace iBooks.